Can you collect disability and pension at the same time

Submitted by Ram on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 10:55

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The amount of Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) benefits you are entitled to if you are found to be completely disabled by the Social Security Administration (SSA) is based on the full amount of retirement benefits you are eligible for. You can not receive both disability benefits and retirement benefits at the same time. If you qualify for disability benefits, your benefits will automatically be changed to retirement benefits when you are old enough for full retirement.

In some cases, however, you can apply for Social Security Disability benefits and simultaneously take an early retirement, if you’re old enough. While this works out well for those who are eventually approved for Social Security disability benefits, it can have long term negative effects on your income if you are not ultimately approved for disability benefits.

Here’s how it works: You need to apply for Social Security disability benefits first. This establishes your protected filing date and an alleged date of onset for your disabling condition. As with anyone else who applies for Social Security disability benefits, you must have a disabling condition which has lasted or is expected to last a year or longer (or to result in your death).

After you have applied for Social Security disability benefits, you apply for early retirement. The SSA will accept your application for early retirement as long as you have sufficient credits to retire. When your application is processed, you will begin receiving Social Security retirement benefits at a reduced rate. Opting for early retirement costs you 25% of your full retirement benefit amount. For instance, if your full retirement amount would be $1,000, your reduced retirement benefit is $750.

If your disability claim is eventually approved, you will be entitled to start receiving your full retirement amount immediately (albeit in the form of Social Security disability benefits). You will also be entitled to back pay for the entire time you were eligible for Social Security disability benefits. This means you would be paid your full retirement/disability amount for any months during which you didn’t receive retirement payments and the other 25% of your retirement amount for the months in which you received a reduced payment. Additionally, your retirement benefits would be adjusted so that you would receive full retirement benefits when you reach full retirement age.

Before making the decision to apply simultaneously for early retirement and Social Security disability benefits, however, you should consider the effects it could have on your retirement benefits. If, for example, you are ultimately denied Social Security Disability benefits, your retirement benefits would be kept at the reduced rate permanently. Before making any decisions, consider consulting an experienced Social Security disability lawyer to make sure that you have a solid case for Social Security disability benefits.

Consulting a Social Security disability lawyer won’t cost you anything unless he or she takes your case and your disability claim is approved. Even then, he will only charge you a percentage of the back pay to which you are entitled. Your ongoing benefits will be unaffected. Since the decision to apply for both disability and retirement benefits could have permanent effects on your retirement, you don’t want to make the decision without the advice of a qualified Social Security Disability attorney.

These VA benefits have different eligibility requirements and criteria for determining payment amounts.

Pension benefits are for Veterans who served during wartime. Eligibility is based on financial need. This is what we consider when determining eligibility:

  • Your and your dependents’ net worth and annual income, and
  • Your age or the severity of any disability you may have (it doesn’t have to be service connected)

Your income determines the amount of your pension payments.

Disability compensation is for Veterans with service-connected disabilities who served during wartime, peacetime, or both. Eligibility is based on the type and severity of disability. It isn’t based on net worth or income level.

Your level of disability (your disability rating) determines the amount of your disability compensation.

Note: You can’t get VA pension payments and disability compensation at the same time. If you apply for and are eligible for both, we’ll pay you whichever benefit is the greater amount.

Can you collect disability and pension at the same time
You cannot get double benefits by combining Social Security retirement and disability benefits.

There is a specific situation in which a person may receive both types of benefits at the same time, addressed below, but only to bring them up to their full benefit amount, not double benefits.

This can be a confusing subject, so we have tried to outline each situation in simple terms below. Some questions from readers have also been answered, but we have closed comments for now as our time to answer questions is limited. Please understand that we are not able to accept calls to the office with general questions. You can press the Ctrl key and the F key to search for a specific topic and find where your question may be answered below.

If you are already receiving SSDI disability benefits and approaching retirement age:

If you are already receiving Social Security disability insurance (SSDI) benefits, you are already receiving your full benefit amount. When you reach full retirement age, the disability benefits will be converted into retirement benefits, in the same amount. This happens automatically, when you reach your full retirement age. You do not have to do anything to continue receiving your benefits. Nothing happens at age 62, because early retirement benefits do not apply, since you are already receiving your full benefit. (Note that this applies to SSDI, not SSI. For SSI, see below.)

If you took early retirement and applied for disability (before full retirement age):

If you took advantage of early, reduced retirement benefits, which can be done at age 62, and then are approved for disability benefits, this can result in you receiving both retirement and disability benefits for the same time period, to bring you up to your full benefit amount. However, it does not result in double benefits, just a combination of benefits to bring you up to your full benefit amount. The exact amount and timing of your benefit increase depends on whether your entitlement to disability benefits is found to have started before or after you started taking early retirement benefits. Note that because of the five-month waiting period for SSDI, entitlement begins in the sixth full month after the onset of the disability.

If the disability entitlement started before you took early retirement: If the disability entitlement is found to have started before you began receiving early retirement benefits, then the end result for your benefit amount will be the same as if you had never taken early retirement benefits. You will get the difference to make up your full benefit, retroactively and going forward. At full retirement age, you will continue to receive your full benefit.

If the disability entitlement started after you took early retirement: If the disability entitlement is found to have started after you began receiving early retirement benefits, then during the period between when the disability entitlement began and full retirement age, you will receive your full disability benefit amount. Upon reaching full retirement age, the retirement benefit amount will still be reduced based on the number of months you received early retirement benefits.

If you are past your full retirement age and become disabled:

If your disability began after you reached full retirement age, then becoming disabled does not make you eligible for any additional benefits from Social Security.

If you are already receiving SSI disability benefits and approaching age 62:

Since Supplemental Security Income (SSI) benefits are based on financial need, one of the requirements of the program is that you apply for other benefits that you may be eligible for. That includes early Social Security retirement benefits. So, if you are on SSI disability benefits, Social Security may require you to apply for your early retirement benefits at age 62. However, your SSI benefits will be lowered accordingly, since SSI will only bring you up to the full SSI monthly amount ($735 per month in 2017).

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